{"componentChunkName":"component---src-templates-article-js","path":"/artreview-podcast-episode-5-rene-matic/","result":{"data":{"wordpressPost":{"id":116178,"slug":"artreview-podcast-episode-5-rene-matic","title":"ArtReview Podcast | Episode 5: Rene Matić","excerpt":"For episode five of the ArtReview Podcast, artist Rene Matić speaks to ArtReview editor Fi Churchman","content":"\n<p><strong>‘‘We’re in such a culture of favouring youth, in everything. The art world is a special place because it doesn’t’’</strong></p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img src=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-1230x1592.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-116181\" srcset=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-1230x1592.jpg 1230w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-600x777.jpg 600w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-300x388.jpg 300w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-768x994.jpg 768w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-1187x1536.jpg 1187w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-1582x2048.jpg 1582w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-scaled.jpg 1978w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1230px) 100vw, 1230px\" /><figcaption>Courtesy: ©Rene Matić, 2025. Courtesy the Artist and Arcadia Missa, London.</figcaption></figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In the <em>ArtReview</em> <em>Podcast</em>, artists, thinkers and cultural figures are invited to choose three works as lenses through which to examine their practice and explore critical issues impacting the contemporary art world. </p>\n\n\n\n<p>In our fifth episode, artist <a href=\"https://artreview.com/noemie-goudal-deep-time/\">Rene Matić</a> speaks to <em>ArtReview</em> editor Fi Churchman about polyamory, Shane Meadows’s <em>This Is England </em>and being the youngest nominee ever for the Turner Prize. Matić will unveil a new work as part of eight creative commissions for the opening of the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https://www.vam.ac.uk/east?srsltid=AfmBOopwEF_LWjLsPRnqNXLXUV3XM8CVkWAwxcBdFUEPtxJTQmzaRZ_4\" target=\"_blank\">V&amp;A East Museum</a> on 18 April 2026. </p>\n\n\n\n<p>Listen now on&nbsp;<a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/episode/2lvezk6yB4zyUpH0KN1DBj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify</a> and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https://youtu.be/ezaN6eUKhqQ\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube</a>.&nbsp;New episodes drop every fortnight. All of the works referenced in this podcast can be viewed below.</p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"ArtReview Podcast | Episode 5: Rene Matić on polyamory, This Is England and the Turner Prize\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/ezaN6eUKhqQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen></iframe>\n</div></figure>\n\n\n\n<p></p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>About Rene Matić</strong></p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rene Matić is a London-based, Peterborough-born artist working across photography, film, installation and sound, exploring ideas of identity, intimacy, race, gender and belonging. Drawing on their heritage as a Brit, second-generation skinhead and third-generation St Lucian, their work captures everyday moments of community and selfhood and has been displayed at South London Gallery and Bradford Culture Contemporary for the Turner Prize 2025, among others. </p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Credits </strong></p>\n\n\n\n<p>Interviewer: Fi Churchman<br>Host and producer: Chiara Wilkinson <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/chiarawilkinson/?hl=en-gb\">@chiarawilkinson</a><br>Audio editor: Charlie Duffield&nbsp;<br>Music design: Iona Smith <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/ic_yonic/?hl=en\">@ic_yonic</a></p>\n\n\n\n<h2>Works mentioned, in order of reference</h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"This is England: Official Trailer (2006)\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https://www.youtube.com/embed/1IKPdRdOkMg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen></iframe>\n</div><figcaption><em>This is England</em>, dir. Shane Meadows, 2006&nbsp;</figcaption></figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Shane Meadows’s cult British film<em>, This is England </em>(2006), set in 1983 in an unnamed town in the English Midlands, follows Shaun, a lonely 12-year-old boy whose father has died in the Falklands War. Shaun falls in with a group of skinheads who initially offer him friendship, humour and belonging, though when an older member named Combo returns from prison, the group is pulled towards aggression, tied up with nationalism and racism.</p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img src=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7-1230x692.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-116238\" srcset=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7-1230x692.jpg 1230w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7-600x338.jpg 600w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7-300x169.jpg 300w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7-768x432.jpg 768w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-7.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1230px) 100vw, 1230px\" /></figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img src=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1-1230x692.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-116237\" srcset=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1-1230x692.jpg 1230w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1-600x338.jpg 600w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1-300x169.jpg 300w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1-768x432.jpg 768w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/MANY-RIVERS-STILL-1.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1230px) 100vw, 1230px\" /><figcaption>Rene Matić, <em>Many Rivers</em>, 2022. Courtesy Arcadia Missa</figcaption></figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Matić’s <em>Many Rivers</em> (2022) is an intimate 30-minute film created for Matić’s 2022 solo exhibition at the South London Gallery. Blending footage of family members with scenes from her hometown of Peterborough, including neglected housing developments and derelict churches, the film centres on her father, Paul, a Black skinhead, as he reflects on identity and his upbringing.</p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img src=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/91zdzRZd-RL._SL1500_.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-117572\" srcset=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/91zdzRZd-RL._SL1500_.jpg 972w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/91zdzRZd-RL._SL1500_-600x863.jpg 600w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/91zdzRZd-RL._SL1500_-300x431.jpg 300w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/91zdzRZd-RL._SL1500_-768x1105.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 972px) 100vw, 972px\" /></figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Set in New York and Paris during the late 1950s, James Baldwin’s <em><em>Another Country </em></em>(1962) follows a circle of friends living in the aftermath of the death of Rufus Scott, a Black jazz drummer. As they grapple with grief, they confront the complexities of race, sexuality and intimacy that shape their relationships. </p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img src=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić-1230x816.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-117561\" srcset=\"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić-1230x816.jpg 1230w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić-600x398.jpg 600w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić-300x199.jpg 300w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić-768x510.jpg 768w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić-1536x1019.jpg 1536w, https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Aunty-Lulu-with-Ska-Nails-2025.-Photo-by-Rene-Matić.jpg 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1230px) 100vw, 1230px\" /><figcaption>Rene Matić, <em>Aunty Lulu with Ska Nails</em>, 2025. Courtesy the artist</figcaption></figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Matić’s ‘New Work’ commission for the opening of V&amp;A East this year features photographic works presented in lightboxes shaped like a sound system, created in response to the V&amp;A East Museum’s <em>The Music is Black: A British Story.</em> The work will be unveiled on 18 April, when V&amp;A East Museum opens to the public, alongside work by Tania Bruguera, Es Devlin, Lawrence Lek and others.</p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Follow the ArtReview Podcast on&nbsp;<a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/episode/2btYiB1Nk3Hfv9LRrnqxG3?si=E-3ICQArR1etVw9W0W1E9A\">Spotify</a> and <a href=\"https://youtu.be/ezaN6eUKhqQ\">YouTube</a>.</em></strong></p>\n","path":"/artreview-podcast-episode-5-rene-matic/","format":"standard","date":"10 April 2026","rawDate":"2026-04-10T11:32:52.000Z","branch":{"name":"artreview.com"},"author":{"name":"ArtReview","path":"/author/artreview/"},"category":{"name":"Podcast","path":"/category/podcast/"},"featured_media":{"source_url":"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-scaled-1.jpg","caption":"","alt_text":"","media_details":{"width":1966,"height":1100,"sizes":{"thumbnail":{"source_url":"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-scaled-1-300x168.jpg","width":300,"height":168},"medium":{"source_url":"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-scaled-1-600x336.jpg","width":600,"height":336},"large":{"source_url":"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-scaled-1-1230x688.jpg","width":1230,"height":688},"wordpress_1536x1536":{"source_url":"https://backend.artreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/AM_Rene-Matić_Self-portrait_2025-scaled-1-1536x859.jpg","width":1536,"height":859},"wordpress_2048x2048":null}}},"acf":{"article_artist":null,"article_video":null,"article_audio":null,"article_collaboration":"","article_custom_html_snippet":"","article_featured_title":"ArtReview Podcast | Episode 5: Rene Matić","article_featured_description":"","article_highlight":false,"article_custom_link_url":"","hero_image":null,"seo_title":"ArtReview Podcast | Episode 5: Rene Matić","seo_description":"For episode five of the ArtReview Podcast, artist Rene Matić speaks to ArtReview editor Fi Churchman. 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